Posts by the girl next door

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Mr Ali told the commission he did not believe church law replaced secular law

by fulltimestudent in

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friends

from a report in today's canberra times:.

apparently, at one stage in his interrogation elder dino ali must have explained the following.. "mr ali told the commission he did not believe church law replaced secular law and said the organisation worked with legal authorities.".

read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witness-elders-ignored-child-sex-abuse-rules-of-evidence-royal-commission-told-20150729-gimnwb.html#ixzz3hk3boosrelder ali's statement is not the real truth is it?

the girl next door

I don't believe the transcript reconciles with the opening post.

Q. Well, the real reason is, isn't it, that you see your structures within the church as replacing, standing in the place of, the civil structures?

A. Only when it comes to spiritual matters, and if those morals have - people - those within the church have crossed those, the guidelines are that they take the steps to remove the person, protect, then, through either instructions or personal counselling to those that are involved with that family, and warning them of not allowing their children to stay overnight with this person, never to be alone with this person, never to work alone or go anywhere with that person. So many have been made aware of that.

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A few facts to ponder

by Nitty-Gritty in

i have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.

some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.

this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.

the girl next door

Same straw man rubbish regurgitated from the JW apologist http://thirdwitness.com/childabuse/Database.html

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Australian child abuse enquiry.

by notoneoftheboys in

lies and more lies.

a question was asked by the court on having someone in the room for moral support with a minor child or frightened girl when being questioned by the elders over allegations of child abuse.

the elders book makes it clear no one else is allowed.

the girl next door

Marvin. References please?

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About The GB-7

by coalize in

just asking about this "new light" of the 7 member of the governing body (the gb-7) being the fds.

what is the point?.

what biblical "argument" have they given about that ?

the girl next door

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Candace settled and she deserves the peace.

by snare&racket in

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friends

"hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?".

the girl next door

Candace is a hero. She and her team have blazed a trail others can follow. Apologists like NG are inconsequential. This train will keep blazing forward. Thanks for this thread S&R.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

the girl next door

Nitty, do you have children?

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

the girl next door

Nitty said, "How do you know that WT do not base their judgement on what law enforcement has said about the perpetrator and on history of prosecution? What else do you think they can base their judgment on??? Logically??"

Because the KS10 specifically states that if a convicted abuser is sentenced under a plea bargain, that does not constitute admission of guilt within the congregation when it has been established there are not "two witnesses".

99% of these prosecutions do not reach trial and are settled through plea bargains.

Again you are ill informed, delusional and have not the slightest depth of comprehension regarding the internal policies of Watchtower nor how investigation, prosecution and the rule in a court of law operates.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

the girl next door

Nitty said, " Elders will advise parents to go to the police if they themselves are not mandated to report."

Blatant lie. Any elder doing so would be removed within 24 hours by the circuit overseer.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

the girl next door

Again nitty you are delusional.

While parents are not prohibited by elders in going to the police, if the elders find the alleged abuser is not guilty from lack of a second witness, than the parents or reporters are manipulated through control tactics by the threat of disfellowshipping for slander.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

the girl next door

So Watchtower is the ultimate authority on who is considered and a "known abuser"?

Nope. Not their call.

That judgement should be reserved for law enforcement and prosecution.

When Watchtower stonewalls and uses legal loopholes to avoid reporting to the police they will remain culpable and in malfeasance and will continue paying out millions in attorney's fees.